The group began with questions.
[1] What is the thesis in these pieces? PP. 48: health
becoming an object of calculation. The body as given. What should we make of
this?
[2] PP. 39: “We would nevertheless….social facts”. In what
sense are patients not social facts? Is there a distinction between social
factors in medicine and psycho-somatic qualities that he discusses below?
[3] PP. 38: “Should the introduction….” Discussion of the “in
vogue” paradigm. What other sources (other than immunology) are there for
thinking about disease? Where else does GC look for an account of disease?
Is the reading of health and the history of philosophy
performing an account of disease and human experience?
[4] PP. 37-8 How is the discussion for living conditions
integrated into an understanding of disease? How does this relate to inequality?
PP. 50 does GC contrast his own account with the
phenomenological account?
[5] Could we apply Delaporte’s ‘epistemographic’ framework
to make sense of the disease chapter? What does GC mean in claiming that health
is the truth of the body?
The Normal and the Pathological : is disease merely a
quantitative variation of the normal state? GC: no.
Do sciences of the normal and the pathological exist? Are
these discrete? CG: 228. only a science of what is called normal. He is
critical of the idea that physiology comes before pathology. We actually start
with pathology (the way that knowledge actually develops): ‘the patient calls
the doctor’. Eventually that gives rise to questions about normality.
GC is criticizing the ideas that there is no self-standing “ontology”
of disease. It is always a quantitative distance from the health.
Three problems with this view: (i) rationalist optimism: evil
has no reality. (ii) the view is too deterministic (Laplace). (iii) the reduction
of quality to quantity.
CG is doing historical epistemology. But is he also doing
epistemocritical work too? He is not only charting the discursive shift, but
wants to make a positive argument for why conception of health is better than another.
At the end, GC seems to suggest that Merleau-Ponty was
paving the way for his own view. On pp. 48, he refers to the body as having
different qualities—then this is taken up in relation to health. He also does
not want to embrace a kind of anti-medicine.
CG wants to see the body as both given and constructed. But
does not seem to want to take the phenomenological route to make this point. He
seems to want to preserve a space for experience viz a viz the body (or health
and disease?).
Perhaps what CG is rejecting is a kind of reductionism of
health to either the first or third personal perspective.
37-8: The treatment of disease in the hospitals
systematically erase or decontextualize them from their social conditions.
There is an interesting connection between production and medicine.
GC seems like he is interested in different registers:
social, biological, etc.. and wants to leave room for a kind of
phenomenological point of view within each.
Is GC just rejecting the idea that ophthalmology patients
are purely social facts?
He wants to affirm both the sociological and the medical.
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