Feb.22, 2018
Questions
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What is ‘history’ for Farge? (pp.179, 180-84)
How is Farge using history? How is she conducting a history?
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Why is Farge calling that which “must be denied
& forbidden” ‘history’? What does ‘history’ mean such that it is the right
term? (180, 179)
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Definition of study of crowds (172) –
representation politics changing affective relationships?
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Explore tension between sociological tone &
the historical nature of the project – is historiography necessarily sociology
for Farge?
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Compare Farge’s account of Damiens &
reformers (Beccaria) Foucault’s account in DP
(179-181)
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How does Farge account for the shift in sensibilities
concerning public executions vis-à-vis Elias and Foucault? (p.181-2)
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Impossibility of critiquing one’s own
contemporary situation/historical milieu? (p.182)
Discussion
·
History – as context? (179) – as contingent
reality? – as personalization of the event – What are the senses in which she
is practicing history? What are we to make of her use of ‘history’ in scare
quotes (179)? Writing history of crowds involved in practices in which they are
encouraged to not have a history. She can’t give them a history which they
lack. Writing the history of ritual (180) – ‘ritual’ as different from ‘history’.
Ritual = repeatable vs. history = contingent
·
Evidence she’s bringing to bear to her claims? Claims
as partly conceptual and partly empirical. Evidence being used to indicate how
one should read the text in general. Giving dominant narrative and another way
of reading the history. (see p.185)
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Tension between the mundanity of the ritual and
the – mainstream historians are ritualizing the history that in fact had a
history – explicit narrative of historians that present the history as
ahistorical – Farge taking issue with these standard histories (179) – or positing
against that something that is implicit – or positing against that something
that is explicit that is not part of the ritual itself (187)? Crowd running
against the ritual and asserting something, the history that interrupts and is
different from the ritual? Is it explicit, implicit, or both? Rituals which
present themselves as being without history – excavating/ explicitating the
implicit material that the ritual couldn’t countenance – historians just
rehearsing the ritual – habit role metaphor vs. in the weeds -
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Taking crowd as object à sociological project?
(172) – begins with the crowd (le foule),
rather than tracks its emergence – sociology of the social (?) – description of
social life – attention to social relationships – sources? – what authority is
she appealing to in her claims?
·
Farge using affect as grid through which to provide
different account of history/historical shifts– analogous with the way Foucault
uses practice/techniques to provide account of history/historical shifts
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Farge’s categorization of part I? Maybe
domesticity?
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